“I use to watch OUAT with my 13 yr old daughter and her friend. Tonight I was SO embarrassed when the scene of Rumple kissing the witch came up. It was very distasteful, made me feel very uncomfortable and I don’t think that’s the kind of things I want my girl to watch. I thought this was a family show. I’m very dissapointed. Not to mention my girls were VERY upset. Belle is their favorite princess ever, so… it was horrible!”
Confused as to how the kiss was more upsetting than the mass grave of the village Regina slaughtered, the rape of graham, Cora and Regina abusing their children, children being eaten, etc. this is a show where murder, abuse and rape are common, not to mention James and jack in bed, Snow and Charming in bed, etc.
Being unhappy with the kiss I understand, but that being the thing that takes the show from being a family show to not? That confuses me.
I think it’s because it was so much more explicit. We saw the aftermath of the village Regina slaughtered, and we were told that Graham was raped without actually “seeing” it (in a reference that would pass over most small children’s heads). This we saw, complete with the moaning and such (I had to watch the scene for myself, but I didn’t watch the whole ep). Not a good reason by any means, because it’s just saying, “Well, we didn’t see it so it doesn’t matter”, but it makes sense from a visual perspective.
I agree with tjmystic in that there’s a difference between knowing something happens and actually seeing it. There’s a reason why I find reading Game of Thrones easier than watching it (despite there being more content in the books and thus, more disturbing things).
There are lots of adult themes in OUAT and a I’d expect two 13 year olds to be able to connect the dots with how awful those aspects that we didn’t directly see are. This scene is not more “adult” than the rape of Graham, or the murder of a village. It’s a much lesser adult theme than those two things, but it’s different actually seeing it occur.
This scene was also more explicit than the other “sexy” scenes in the show, like Charming and Snow, or James and Jack, or the scenes between Regina and Graham.
I’m not saying the message is awful in this scene when compared to the others, because it doesn’t even compare to the horror of rape or murder, but I can understand why it would upset people.
EDIT: It is worth noting that there is lots of violence in the show in addition to lots of violence being skipped (like when Charming was shot with an arrow, or the sword fights, etc). There are also lots of threats of violence.
I do think that sex being worse than violence is a ridiculous thing in our society. I’m definitely for fixing that. But I can understand why people would find it uncomfortable.
Actual Quotes from my Dad (An English Teacher)
- Dad: Why the hell did you put a comma there?
- Dad: Do you even know what a participial phrase is?
- Dad: Omg. He's like my favorite character of all time.
- Dad: Who should I dress up as for the movie premier?
- Dad: Hey are you awak? I know it's late, but you read Animal Farm, right? Yeah. I need you to read this report. I can't tell if I am just super tired or if this is actual bullshit.
- Dad: Alesha wouldn't be able to spell 'definitely' right if wrote it down for her. She would fucking erase it and then write 'defiantly', because she doesn't care. I hate her.
- Dad: I need you to bake brownies. I lost a bet.
- Dad: Omg. You cannot ship me with Gilcher. You know I don't like tattoos and he's like twenty-five. And for Christ's sake, he teaches math.
- Dad: Omg. Gilcher said the funniest thing today.
- Dad: Mrs. Ashworth and I have decided to start a band. It'll be called Great Expectations.
- Dad: It's like you didn't read the fucking book.
- Dad: Okay. So this week you're reading this book I stole from Mrs. Ashworth's. It's like sixty pages long, but you'll love it.
- Dad: *puts books on my bed for me to read everyday and demands that I read them*
- Dad: My son doesn't like reading. I have not only failed him, but society. You aren't my son. Leave.
- Dad: Okay. So you're getting books for Christmas. All of you. I get discounts on them since I'm a teacher, and since I'm a teacher, it's all I can afford, so...
- Dad: Fucking standardized testing can go fuck itself in the ass.
- Dad: I have to teach for the required testing instead of what they really need to know.
- Dad: Fuck the government.
- Dad: Fuck the school board.
- Dad: Close the door.
- Dad: Charles Dickens was so fucking pretentious, and I hate him, but he also caused change, but he's such a Dick. Ha. DICKens.
- Dad: I love puns.
- Dad: People who say sarcasm is the lowest form of humor are assholes.
- Dad: Please shut up.
- Dad: Catching Fire was the worst book but the best movie and that feels weird.
- Dad: I wouldn't get so mad when you call me at school if you didn't change your ringtones to inappropriate rap music.
- Dad: I fucking hate Alesha. She asked what countries were apart of Austria-Hungary today and I almost told her to get out.
- Dad: You cannot visit my school in a dress that short. There are boys there.
- Dad: Barbra Parks is fucking Queen.
- Dad: I need you to make me a good, relaxing playlist for silent reading. I'm too lazy.
- Dad: If I have to watch two of my students grind on each other at one more dance, I will kill them both.
- Dad: They act like I care what they think.
- Dad: I hate homework.
- Dad: I have decided to become a politician.
- Dad: What's the one book with the guys and the one kills the other and the chick without a name who dies and the short angry man? Mouseman? Oh my fucking gosh. Of Mice and Men. I have failed.
Dad: Why do you think they do that?
Girl: Because the companies who make these try to trick the girls into buying the pink stuff instead of stuff boys want to buy. [x]
that awkward moment when a child understands the harm of forcing gender roles better than most grown male politicians.
I’m surprised that I haven’t reblogged this, to be honest.
I love that last gif. She looks so frustrated. Like “Um, hello, obviously girls and boys can like anything why doesn’t anybody get that???”
She does have a point though..
Kids who are smarter than adults though.
The other day this family came to my place of work and asked where the boys section was because “we don’t want any girl stuff do we?” *looks at son*
The boy was 4. I work at a soap shop. It’s fucking soap. What are you doing to him.
I was always like this as a child and just didn’t get why everyone else wasn’t. Thankfully I had parents who let me choose whatever I wanted.
Friendly reminder that it is okay to change how you identify
- Human beings are constantly changing
- New information constantly circulates
- This can go for your gender as well
if you identify as genderless then change to genderfluid
that is okay
if you never change how you identify, that is also okay
identity does not have to be set in stone
Now that I’ve had a few minutes to digest that scene…
I’m actually really, really angry.
It’s not just because Jaime is my favorite character, but because Jaime is (per the books) one of the few men in this series who respects women.
Jaime, who wanted to protect Rhaella from Aerys.
Jaime, who actually grasps that rape is a terrible, terrible thing (“If I were a woman, I’d make them kill me,” he said to Brienne, a line that was included in the show).
Jaime, who actually left when Cersei asked him to leave (even though he “travelled a thousand leagues to get to [her] and lost the best part of [himself] along the way”).
Jaime, who is very intentionally not a rapist because he is supposed to be the archetypical knight in shining armor who believes in chivalry and old-fashioned romance and protecting highborn ladies.
Read from right to left :)
This is a little manga I wrote to show how a girl’s efforts to make someone hurting smile ends up revealing a similar compassion from the very boy she was trying to comfort. It shows how a little kindness can sometimes seem pointless but it can be contagious and turn around to help the person giving it more than the one receiving it.
SDOHUFodshuf omg this is so so so so so cute I love iiiit ahhh